What you're doing here, Alice, is attempting to refute my citation of scientific and legal sources based on the presumption that I am committing an appeal to authority. Well, if that's the case, then because scientists say the world goes round the Sun after much investigation, we should just throw that all out because they're just an authority.
"It's important to note that this fallacy should not be used to dismiss the claims of experts, or scientific consensus. Appeals to authority are not valid arguments, but nor is it reasonable to disregard the claims of experts who have a demonstrated depth of knowledge unless one has a similar level of understanding and/or access to empirical evidence."
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
In other words, the experts in the APA are not automatically wrong, nor is it wrong to cite them, because they have evidence for their position that pedophilia is a paraphilia and that children are not mentally developed enough to actually consent to sex.
A few minutes of Googling revealed that pedophiles are more likely to have a comorbid psychiatric disorder other than pedophilia for instance: http://journals.psychiatryonline.org/art...eid=173441
YOU have to have evidence that they are wrong, and so far, other than bald assertions that children are smarter than we think and that adults can love children, you have come up with none.
Yes, being 18 doesn't automatically make you mature. But the law has to presume at SOME point that people will be responsible and then hold them to that. Some states set it at 16, others 17, others even 15, and I don't begrudge them that, but at some point it would have to be set, and preferably in the upper teens at the very least since obviously TEN YEAR OLDS don't know what they're doing sexually.
Being 18 in this country allows you other rights as well such as voting and possibly driving so that seems to be the norm that works well for everything, and that's why 18 has been settled on in most places in this country. If we instead raised say the voting age to 25 there would rightfully be a protest in this country. But if you want to do the opposite, how low would you set it? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10? 9? 8? Why then allow 8 year olds to have sex in your fictional country but not the right to vote? Do you see how ridiculous it would get?
"It's important to note that this fallacy should not be used to dismiss the claims of experts, or scientific consensus. Appeals to authority are not valid arguments, but nor is it reasonable to disregard the claims of experts who have a demonstrated depth of knowledge unless one has a similar level of understanding and/or access to empirical evidence."
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
In other words, the experts in the APA are not automatically wrong, nor is it wrong to cite them, because they have evidence for their position that pedophilia is a paraphilia and that children are not mentally developed enough to actually consent to sex.
A few minutes of Googling revealed that pedophiles are more likely to have a comorbid psychiatric disorder other than pedophilia for instance: http://journals.psychiatryonline.org/art...eid=173441
YOU have to have evidence that they are wrong, and so far, other than bald assertions that children are smarter than we think and that adults can love children, you have come up with none.
Yes, being 18 doesn't automatically make you mature. But the law has to presume at SOME point that people will be responsible and then hold them to that. Some states set it at 16, others 17, others even 15, and I don't begrudge them that, but at some point it would have to be set, and preferably in the upper teens at the very least since obviously TEN YEAR OLDS don't know what they're doing sexually.
Being 18 in this country allows you other rights as well such as voting and possibly driving so that seems to be the norm that works well for everything, and that's why 18 has been settled on in most places in this country. If we instead raised say the voting age to 25 there would rightfully be a protest in this country. But if you want to do the opposite, how low would you set it? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10? 9? 8? Why then allow 8 year olds to have sex in your fictional country but not the right to vote? Do you see how ridiculous it would get?
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
