RE: The redneck strike again.
July 30, 2014 at 2:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2014 at 3:03 pm by Confused Ape.)
(July 30, 2014 at 11:08 am)Riketto Wrote: One place may be good for something but bad for other things.
Drivers are very good but drinkers are very bad.
In other places may be the opposite so please don't rush in your judgments.
The drivers aren't very good when they've been drinking. That's the problem in Australia - a lot of people drink too much then get into their cars and drive.
(July 30, 2014 at 11:08 am)Riketto Wrote: When you say........objective reality.......you already gone off tracks.
Objective come from object and an object is something material.
What God has to do with something material only.....God....knows.
Objective in this sense has nothing to do with objects or the material. There's no proof that your concept of God or any other deity exist as anything but subjective, psychological experiences. It's all very well saying that the universe is a manifestation of God but this still doesn't automatically mean that God is a real, eternal being that manifests everything.
(July 30, 2014 at 11:08 am)Riketto Wrote: You tend to forget something.
As you try to tune a station before you get the correct tune you experience some static noise.
The same thing happen when you listen to your consciousness.
If your tune is not correct it is obvious that you may experience Apollo or father Christmas but as soon as you get the correct tune all the unreal disappear to let the real appear.
The consciousness can not be blame for send you the unreal.
It is rather you that got to work out how to tune properly.
All these archetypal images come from what Jung called the Self which is nothing to do with the little ego. Others refer to it as the Higher Self although it's not cute and cuddly like the New Age concept.
http://www.trans4mind.com/jamesharveystout/self.htm
Quote:It is the part of the psyche which organizes and directs the rest of the psyche -- the ego, the conscious mind, the personal unconscious, and all other elements of our psychological being.
It is the totality of the psyche, including all of the elements, such as the ego, etc. Because the Self is all of the psyche, its viewpoint contains an objectivity, acceptance, reconciliation, and balance of the "opposites" of ego and shadow, persona and shadow, and our many contradictory feelings and impulses.
It is the center of the psyche (like the nucleus of an atom) to which the other parts of the psyche are connected and subordinate.
It is an archetype.
It is a transcendent, unchanging part of ourselves, in contrast to the ever-varying ego, shadow, complexes, etc.
It is a "God-image" within the psyche. Although Jung was criticized for allegedly implying that the Self is God, he stressed that the Self is not God itself but rather only an image of God, a representation of God as it would be depicted within the psyche (although he did call the Self the "God within us" in Psychology and Religion on page 334). An encounter with the Self feels like a "religious experience" with God; Jung said that the occurrence leaves us vitalized" and "enriched." In addition to being a symbol of God in the psyche, the Self could also be considered a symbol of what the religions call the "soul."
None of this proves that there's anything more than the blueprint for being human. The deepest level of the unconscious thinks in symbols and images and it throws up whatever it wants to be made conscious. If I keep practicing I might end up with the experience which people say is God BUT it will still be a subjective experience. There would be no way of proving that this experience was anything other than something produced by my brain. And I'm not just talking about proving it to others. I couldn't even prove it to myself. This doesn't matter all with Jungian psychology, though, because God or any other deity doesn't have to exist as a real being for it to work.
PS: God in this post is nothing to do with the monotheistic deity of Judaism/Christianity/Islam.
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?