RE: WHY was Jesus cricified?
July 30, 2014 at 3:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2014 at 4:20 pm by Jenny A.)
(July 30, 2014 at 12:57 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: So, why was it necessary for God to have Jesus sacrificed for our sins? Now, I know that this whole notion of Jesus' death being "a sacrifice" is stupid, and I've already covered that elsewhere, but for sake of this thread, lets assume it counts. Why did it have to happen? By what mechanism does the death of one innocent person atone for the sins of others? I was thinking about this and realized that this was something that God either chose to do, or somehow had to do, and either way, it has weird consequences most Christians don't like to consider.
God had to go through with it:
So, for whatever reason, this bizarre self-sacrifice was vital to God forgiving our sins, and he couldn't simply just... forgive us. It's something to which God was beholden, and something he has no control over. It makes me wonder: from where did this rule come?
Conclusion: God is not omnipotent.
God chose to go through with it:
God could have forgiven us, but he instead opted to have one third of himself be sacrificed to another third of himself for reasons. Now, this seems stupid (and it is), but I guess I can't complain too much. All parties involved were consenting, even if it does look like some really freaky S&M. Still, the whole charade was unnecessary and overly theatric.
Conclusion: God's bloodlust exceeds his compassion, and he goes out of his way to cause suffering when "solving" problems.
Now, I think the second point is closest to the standard Christian stance, although they don't like to think about it much. It is actually very similar to flood apologetics and original sin apologetics, so, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Any part of this that looks creepy at first glance (all of it) will be washed over with a veneer of [mysterious ways] to hide the blemishes.
@ Robby Pants
You've just asked one of the key questions that I stumbled over in my attempt to "take Jesus into my heart." No evidence of god was hard enough to swallow. Add the nonsensical nature of the how salvation was supposed to work and it was over.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.