Muslim Atheism

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Logical Premises for No Religion

People can be Muslim without faith



People can be Muslim even if they disbelieve in Allah, hell, paradise, angels or any myth and religious superstition etc. The following is the minimum requirement of a Muslim.

• The bedouins say, “We have believed.”
  Say, “You have not believed;
  but say, ‘We have submitted,’
  for faith has not yet entered your hearts.
  And if you obey Allah and His Messenger
  He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything.
  Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
  49.14-15

Now, we are finally getting to it

What has been confusing everyone is that you keep saying you are atheist. It is plain now that you are in fact a muslim and are happy as a muslim. Whether or not you actually consider yourself an atheist because of your disbelief in any god is irrelevant (except to yourself) and secondary to what you see as most important, ie following the quran and being a good muslim.

Have I got that about right?

Without prejudice on either side MA, , try to look at this from our point of view.
If you fast, pray five times a day, follow the quran and do everything a muslim does then that makes you a muslim.
As you say, if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck , quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

In your own mind you may consider your "atheism" (ie disbelief without rebellion) to be an important distinction. There may be some others like you (I read some articles yesterday).

I think I now understand you much better. However, I do not agree with you.
I disagree on a few points:
Although Unity of the human race and universal brotherhood would be a good thing I don't agree that the only way is through the quran.

I don't agree that secularism is a religion.

Also, other types of atheism exist apart from your own; you must accept they are equally valid

How about we now go forward from here and discuss while agreeing to disagree on certain points?