RE: Beware the Believers (Dedicated to Hayter)
May 27, 2010 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2010 at 4:08 pm by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
@Tiberius
an ad hominem is not an insult. an ad hominem is a type of argument. My insult to your character was not an argument or a supporting part of my argument.
example of ad hominem
you should not believe that the earth revolves around the sun because Nicholas Copernicus was an infidel.
explanation: as you can see, the argument uses an irrelevant fact about Nicholas Copernicus to try to discredit his hypothesis that the earth revolves around the sun. I did not use any irrelevant derogatory facts about you to try to discredit your arguments.
example of a statement (insult)
Nicholas Copernicus is an infidel. so much for NIcholas copernicus being an infidel.
wiki : "An ad hominem, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person"), is an attempt to persuade which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.[1] The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy.[2]"
i forgot to mention that you also used a straw man argument against my position on the thread when accusing me of defending the position that life isn't created from scratch until biologists create matter from nothing . I thought you were good at this whole 'philosophy and debate' thing. I better post the definition of a straw man argument too.
wiki:
"A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]'
an ad hominem is not an insult. an ad hominem is a type of argument. My insult to your character was not an argument or a supporting part of my argument.
example of ad hominem
you should not believe that the earth revolves around the sun because Nicholas Copernicus was an infidel.
explanation: as you can see, the argument uses an irrelevant fact about Nicholas Copernicus to try to discredit his hypothesis that the earth revolves around the sun. I did not use any irrelevant derogatory facts about you to try to discredit your arguments.
example of a statement (insult)
Nicholas Copernicus is an infidel. so much for NIcholas copernicus being an infidel.
wiki : "An ad hominem, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person"), is an attempt to persuade which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.[1] The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy.[2]"
i forgot to mention that you also used a straw man argument against my position on the thread when accusing me of defending the position that life isn't created from scratch until biologists create matter from nothing . I thought you were good at this whole 'philosophy and debate' thing. I better post the definition of a straw man argument too.
wiki:
"A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]'
