RE: Why are deists so annoying?
August 6, 2014 at 11:58 am
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm by Violet.)
(August 6, 2014 at 10:27 am)Blackout Wrote: I've been arguing with some deists on the internet. Why are they so annoying and get offended so easily? Moreover, why do they all seem to use a modified philosophical version of the arguments from complexity and cosmology, labelling anyone who refutes them as not seeing deep enough/the big picture? Do they really consider themselves intellectually productive for thinking about the universe and saying 'there has to be a god behind this'?
The universe's taste for irony, and for absolutely absurd 'coincidences', would suggest a Meddler or the like of such.
Quote:My apologies if this offends deists members who have nothing to do with my personal arguments.
I'm not offended, boy... It's true: I'm annoying as all get out
(August 6, 2014 at 10:38 am)Chad32 Wrote: I don't think I've ever gotten into an argument with deists. Seems to me that deism is more or less harmless. They believe some cosmic force started the universe and just left it as is. There's no doctrine that they're forcing others to follow. No punishment for not believing in it or following said convoluted message.
That whole 'just left it as is' bit isn't exactly necessary.
Deism shares much with agnostic theism.
Quote:Unless there's some other kind of deist that thinks we should restrain our exploration of space lest we anger the creator.
I might suggest we not send probes out into space until we're capable of defending ourselves... but that's just aliens in general to be concerned about.
Quote:I may be wrong, but deism seems to be the least invasive religion out there, and I'm more concerned about these extremist followers of abrahamic religions running around than deists.
Religion???
(August 6, 2014 at 10:57 am)Napoléon Wrote: Just seems like they use cop outs to justify their pointless belief IMHO, but yeah, we point this out and it's like we're attacking them. Honestly, I couldn't give a fuck if you don't label yourself a theist or belong to an organised religion, deists take just as much a leap of faith as any other 'believer', and they shouldn't be given slack just because their label is different.
To be entirely fair: every positive belief, every scrap of certainty, every small quip of knowledge... requires a significant leap of faith.
Sure sure... religions are even more of such, no question... but bare trust (let alone conviction) is an impressively self-important leap in and of itself.
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