RE: The redneck strike again.
August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 12:25 pm by Little Rik.)
(August 5, 2014 at 10:25 am)Confused Ape Wrote: You completely missed the point I made. There is no proof that God exists other than as a subjective experience but my husband definitely exists.
Let us get back on track Ape.
The point was.........IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRANSFER THE CONSCIOUSNESS FROM PERSON TO PERSON?
Considering that God is not a physical entity like your man the only way to understand whether He exist or not is to tune up with his consciousness.
Done this it is possible to say that He exist.
But again if i can't even tune up with your love for your man how it is ever possible to tune up with spiritual love which is even more subtle?
You say that your love is real but you can not transfer to me the feeling so the evidence is not possible as it is not possible to transfer to you my spiritual love.
Does this means that God does not exist just because it is not possible to transfer to you my consciousness feeling?
(August 5, 2014 at 7:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Can you see how different is spirituality compared to physical science?
Quote:Yes, I can and I've seen the difference ever since I started using Jungian psychology. The thing is, spirituality isn't a science. Intuition isn't a science either- it's just another way that the brain process information and comes to a conclusion about something.
Ape, you are running far too much with your inner feelings.
Science is a process of learning or a way of pursuing knowledge.
It doesn't really matter whether this knowledge is related to this universe or to the knowledge within.
Iintuitional science is the process to grasp the knowledge within.
Quote:Gosh. Isn't it amazing how Jung achieved the God experience with the techniques used when practising his psychology!!!!
How do you know that Jung was able to achieve this or achieve this with psychology?
I am not saying that he didn't.
I am only saying that it doesn't make much sense to me but it is all possible.
My experience tell me that to achieve the peak of human emancipation it require a lot more than mental effort.
Quote:You said yourself that there's more than one road to Rome so don't dismiss my road just because it's different to yours. I'm not arguing against yoga techniques having results - I just can't accept the interpretation of these results without proof that the interpretation is true.
Yoga is all about spirituality.
According to my belief you can achieve human emancipation even without yoga.
if you wish you may reborn again and again thousand of times hoping to learn more and more at every life.
After thousand of lives you will reach a stage in which you will know the lot physically speaking.
You will invent space machines to travel to other planets.
You may find the physical ELDORADO.
But there is a small-big problem with that.
You still will be stuck into your physical body and you will still stuck in physical chains.
At the end you will get quite tired and exhausted so the only way out all this will be to get out the physical bondage and here spirituality is the only way out.
As i already said you also can get at the top of human emancipation by serving people in need but in any case one thing must be there and that is the desire to change.
(August 6, 2014 at 11:28 am)whateverist Wrote: ..........words are markers for conveying ideas. They don't have any inner meanings. We use the common meanings so we can play together.
Words come out to express a feeling.
As the time goes it may happen that the inner meaning get lost but originally they were born to express a feeling.
Even birds and primate express their inner feeling with some sort of sound.
After sometime as the evolution proceed and primate turn into humans these sound turn into words, the words that we use these days.
If you don't know the original meaning of the words this is your problem but you can't say that words don't have inner meaning.