RE: should america support Israel?
August 6, 2014 at 10:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(August 6, 2014 at 9:54 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: I like your optimism but don't see Islam uniting any time soon. I think what would work would be to let them each have their own countries instead of trying to maintain the post-Ottoman empire boundaries.
I don't say Islam will unite religiously, just as Protestant, catholic, orthodox sects of Christianity has not and probably never will unite religiously. But I suspect one or more broad ranging nation like or super national organization will eventually arise to unite major parts of Islamic world based on common Islamic cultural as well as secular historic heritage, inspite of sectarian differences, similar to how nation states and super national organizations like EU arose and incorporate sects that formerly killed each other with bloodthirsty vigor little more than 300 years ago, all In the name of common secular interest.
Here I think EU potentially made a historic blunder by turning out a turkey eager to join, and thus failing to lock the largest, most advanced, and most modern Islamic nation into a western orientation. Instead turkey is kept out and forced to turn east. . I suspect turkey will become one major driving force around which an future secular, but Islamic culture based, geopolitical pole will coalesce. Europe could have tolerated a little more diversity and forestalled the rise of a neo-ottoman power pole on its door steps, but it chose to treasures it's small view of its Christian heritage instead.
Over time, turkey and Iran, Sunni and Shia, may find many common secular geopolitical interests against Russia, against the gulf sheikhdoms, against Israel. Both are Islamic nations that clearly place considerable emphasis on modernity, and one do not believe modernity and Islam necessarily exclusive, the other increasingly come to regard them as nonexclusive. Iran is so inspite of its purposed caricature as a land of mad ayatollahs in parts of the west.