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Why are deists so annoying?
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RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 7, 2014 at 9:14 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(August 7, 2014 at 8:34 am)Napoléon Wrote: "How do you rationally justify your own belief in god"
I've repeatedly answered this question. In fact, I've never stated that my belief in God is rationally justified, that it is, rather, instinctive.

On reflection, I think this is where you're getting tripped up.

Beliefs don't need to have a rational justification. They only require rational justification if you wish to argue that someone else should believe as you do.

I hope that helps to clear things up.
[emphasis mine]

My initial reaction to this was irritation that anyone should badger a person for not justifying a belief when they aren't attempting to persuade anyone else that that belief is true. The belief is after all akin to hunch or a gut feeling and admittedly so.

Then I went away and thought for a minute. With regard to requiring rational argument about something as harmless as preferring the color purple, or believing in a god as undefined as Deist Paladin's, I'm still irritated. Why do we care what someone else intuitively believes? But what about intuitive beliefs that cause a person to do or fail to do things that cause harm to others. For example, what if intuition tells you vaccines are deadly? Do you get a pass on taking them just because of personal intuition?

I don't mean to derail the thread, but when is it reasonable to give people a pass on intuitive beliefs and when isn't it? Seems more like a personal freedom issue than anything else.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Chad32 - August 6, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by FatAndFaithless - August 6, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 10:57 am
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Diablo - August 6, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 7, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Baqal - August 7, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 6, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 6, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Welsh cake - August 6, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by CapnAwesome - August 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Mudhammam - August 6, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Ryantology - August 7, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 8, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by ignoramus - August 8, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm

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