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Why are deists so annoying?
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RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 7, 2014 at 9:59 am)Napoléon Wrote: I was using it in the sense of how you reason for your belief (or at least appear to to me).
That would only be intellectual dishonesty if I claimed something about my reasoning that was untrue. As I have not done this, I don't meet the definition either in the definition of fallacious reasoning or in the spirit of the term.

Quote:Smells awfully like you want to believe to me. Do you not think so?
I'm curious as to what motive you would ascribe. That would be a good first step. What comfort comes from deism?

Quote:I'm not going to make any concessions for you just because you seem like a smart, intelligent and all round nice guy.
No one has asked you to. But thank you for the compliments anyway.

Quote:This is precisely why I think you're being intellectually dishonest. Can you honestly not understand why I find your belief in a god perplexing?
That you are perplexed by or don't share my beliefs =/= me being dishonest.

Quote:Instinct? Just seems like a cop out for not properly explaining your thought process.
Why?

Quote:You know what you believe is being irrational. But you believe it anyway.
Instinctive.

I make a distinction between "without reason" and "against reason".

Quote:Do you honestly think I don't understand that, give me some credit here.
The acceptance of the assertion that beliefs don't require evidence, that evidence or other reasons are only required when you wish others to believe as you do, seems to fly in the face of the rest of your post. That you not only accept it, but do so with the "you don't say" meme, only underscores the apparent paradox.

Now I'm perplexed.

Quote:Why then, do you not believe in a flying teapot orbiting Mars?
What role would the teapot serve?

Quote:Why is rationality important to you when discrediting theistic gods, but not a deistic one.
The reasons are legion, including both practical consequences and positive claims that can be checked. Elaborating fully would require its own thread but can I trust that's not necessary?

Quote:Right, again, you seem to want to believe.
For what motive?

Quote:Instinct how?
Good question. Perhaps neuroscience will one day have an answer.
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Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Chad32 - August 6, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by FatAndFaithless - August 6, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 10:57 am
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Diablo - August 6, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 7, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Baqal - August 7, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 6, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 6, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Welsh cake - August 6, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by CapnAwesome - August 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Mudhammam - August 6, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Ryantology - August 7, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 8, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by ignoramus - August 8, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm

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