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Why are deists so annoying?
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: But does this tell you who made the machine, or specifically that a god made the machine?
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But who's (or what's) intent?

God is, strictly speaking, ...

...the mysterious X-factor, the enigmatic mind behind it.

(August 7, 2014 at 3:56 pm)Blackout Wrote: Now it is clear. But... Isn't that pretty much pantheism? You seem to be making the case of the universe being god because of it's wonder... That sounds like pantheism to me.
A hair-splitting distinction.

Pantheism is the belief that God IS the universe, as opposed to some unknown mind behind it.

But I think you've got the gist.

And yes, it's a fallacious appeal to wonder. That's why I cop to it being instinctive and not a matter of reason.

And since the practical application is the same, I don't even correct anyone who calls me an atheist anymore. Anyone who would use the term as a pejorative isn't going to comprehend the distinction anyway.
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Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Chad32 - August 6, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by FatAndFaithless - August 6, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 10:57 am
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Diablo - August 6, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 7, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Baqal - August 7, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 6, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Violet - August 6, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Why are deists so annoying? - by Bibliofagus - August 6, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Welsh cake - August 6, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Nine - August 6, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 6, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 6, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 6, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 6, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by CapnAwesome - August 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 6, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Mudhammam - August 6, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Ryantology - August 7, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Losty - August 7, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Tonus - August 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Jenny A - August 7, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 7, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by DeistPaladin - August 8, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by ignoramus - August 8, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Why are deists so annoying? - by Dystopia - August 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm

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