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Sexual Orientation
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RE: Sexual Orientation
(August 8, 2014 at 9:51 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The reason why I think pedophillia is wrong is because the adult typically pursues it for reasons of narcissistic gratification and has little if any concern over the effects on the pliant -- or unwilling -- child.

Sexual activity is often primarily engaged in for its self-gratification purposes. We're a selfish people.

As to the 'unwilling' factor... that would constitute rape, childhood notwithstanding.

Quote:The child, on the other hand , is less likely to be able see the pedophile's real motives, and is therefore more vulnerable and less able to give informed consent.

Please define for me 'informed consent' as you're using it? Children are vulnerable and ignorant, sure... but then, so are the religious adults, and any person who has ever put their trust in another.

Quote:Pedophilia is an act that almost always results in psychological harm to the child, it seems to me. And I think "better safe than sorry" is a fair approach when it comes to something as vague as "when is a child able to give informed consent?"

Paedophiles have to come to grips with the fact that society thinks they are monsters, even just for wanting. Sex between children and adults suffers for the negative perception of such... and there are more reasons it becomes negative more often than not. These include the following, but are not limited to:

Human Trafficking.
Arranged Marriages.
Sick cultural norms (afghani warlord taking a boy on the side, the general perception of women's roles in islamic states)
Religious Manipulation.
Other abuses of power and/or jurisdiction.
General rapes that would be rapes regardless of statutory rape existing or not.

I think "when they have demonstrated their capabilities" is a better approach. We're all different in many senses... we learn differently, we live differently, we grow differently, we age differently, and we see life differently. I despise vague separators of persons' rights, and I despise irrelevant separators (such as 'age lines').

Until some very wide-sweeping social perception and legal observation changes are made... there will be no light upon any positive stories/experiences of paedophilia, which exist, but would be snuffed out for all the media has really cared about paedophilia (heck, there are a number even on this forum, and from a time before A69 existed, I mean (Not to forget that coming clean about paedophilia is pretty much a jail sentence)).

Sort of like how it wasn't until AIDS was shown to be transmitted through straight-people-sex that AIDS stopped being god's justice for gay people having sex... Sleepy Or how patriotism is bolstered by all the negative stories of what's happening <wherever>, because that shit sells, and nobody is interested in reading about how <wherever> is currently in the greatest era of peace it's ever experienced Dodgy
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Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 29, 2014 at 6:14 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 29, 2014 at 6:33 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Brakeman - July 29, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 6:58 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Baqal - July 29, 2014 at 7:03 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by A Theist - July 29, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 29, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Baqal - July 29, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 29, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Little lunch - July 29, 2014 at 8:03 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Baqal - July 29, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Ben Davis - July 29, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Ben Davis - July 29, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 29, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Jenny A - July 29, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by FlyingNarwhal - July 29, 2014 at 8:35 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Jenny A - July 29, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Nine - July 29, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by KUSA - July 29, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by ShaMan - July 29, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by vorlon13 - July 29, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by ShaMan - July 29, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 29, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 29, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Little lunch - July 29, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 29, 2014 at 11:02 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 30, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by BrokenQuill92 - July 30, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 30, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by BrokenQuill92 - July 30, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Little lunch - July 30, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - July 31, 2014 at 1:55 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Nine - July 30, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Mudhammam - July 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Whateverist - July 30, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by ShaMan - July 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Little lunch - July 31, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by StealthySkeptic - August 7, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - August 8, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Thumpalumpacus - August 8, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Violet - August 8, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by Thumpalumpacus - August 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Sexual Orientation - by bennyboy - August 8, 2014 at 10:48 pm

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