(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: What make me believe that NDE make sense is the fact that these people can describe places that they saw during these experiences, places that they never been in their physical life.
I had a strange experience related to a place I hadn't been to at the time. In one of my inner journeys I was standing under a tree looking across a moat at a bit of castle wall and I could also see the bottom of a round tower Some years later I visited Beaumaris Castle on Anglesey where I stood under a tree and looked across the moat to a bit of castle wall and the bottom of a round tower. I soon came up with a mundane explanation for that. My husband had a lot of books on castles and there were photos of Beaumaris showing the tree. My unconscious mind obviously imagined what I would see if I stood under that tree.
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: but most of all is the fact that they all see God.
The reports are of a being of light but people have interpreted it as God, Jesus or some other religious figure.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/09/health...periences/
Quote:There are reports of religious images appearing at times in NDEs, but they are not limited to one single religion, and they don't always appear. Sometimes Buddha, Jesus or Mohammed appear, but usually they don't, Laureys said.
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: Why these experiences would change their lives?
There got to be something very important for changing someone life.
It seems to be the life review that's a key feature. How the experiencers affected others could have been picked up unconsciously via tone of voice or body language (the equivalent with animals). The information could then have been blocked because it was 'inconvenient' to how they liked to behave but they were then faced by this information in the NDE because of what the brain was doing.
Yes, it's possible to interpret NDE experiences as meeting God and some kind of existence after the death of the body but it's not 100% conclusive proof. This is why I'm cautious. Also, I don't want to convince myself it's all true and then start living my current life with the sole intention of getting a good afterlife or a good place in the world next time round. Maybe that kind of attitude wouldn't count as spiritual progress if the yoga belief is correct.

Quote:All the atheists in this forum use the 21st century definition of the word, science, which means physical science. This is why you get laughed at when you talk about intuitional science.
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: The masses few centuries ago used the latest knowledge but when someone came up saying that the planet earth was not the center of the universe and was not flat they laugh scornfully at him.
The things change but the idiots never change.
They reincarnate time and time again with the same skull full of dung.
It's just a case of how the word, science, is used in the modern day. Your term, intuitional science, now comes under the heading of intuitional insights which are classed as psychology - this makes it easier not to confuse things with physical science. Spirituality is classed as transpersonal psychology.
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: I already explained in the past how things works.
It works like this.
Suppose you are God.
You got everything but you are alone so you want to create something that take away this emptiness.
Your mind create a space in which the action take place and you fill with the element that allow life like air, light, water and the matter.
Here the action begin.
If I was God I wouldn't have created a world where living beings could suffer physically and mentally. How can it allow child abuse, factory farms, experimenting on animals, wars and all the other horrors of the physical world? It that its idea of entertainment?
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: The matter soon or later want regain the lost consciousness so turn into vegetable life then into animal life then into human life to then merge again into cosmic consciousness and here the action end but end for that particular consciousness not for everything as the show continue for ever.
So it's really all down to God being bored and lonely. Great.
(August 9, 2014 at 11:04 am)Riketto Wrote: To survive but of course He also gave a way to progress and this way is called spirituality.
I can't say I'm thrilled with this idea of God. According to your belief I'll have spent countless lives going through who knows what just to keep it amused. I'm supposed to be grateful there's a way out of this pointless round of being a plaything?



