RE: "Jewish state"..........
August 13, 2014 at 11:59 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2014 at 12:06 pm by Brian37.)
(August 13, 2014 at 1:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If Israel is going to be a Talmud State then we ought to nuke them now because it would prevent a lot of problems in the future.
Um no, religion already is good at "scorched earth" mentality. Getting humans to a more secular attitude takes time. Neither side is going away but with louder voices and youth not buying into the tribalism of their parents, plus combat fatigue, things can change. The only trick is to keep the old guard from blowing things up.
(August 13, 2014 at 5:20 am)little_monkey Wrote:(August 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If Israel is secular then claiming to base it on the Talmud is just as contradictory.
But it's not based on the Talmud.
Israel on Tuesday said it will now allow Jews to immigrate to Tel Aviv with their non-Jewish same-sex spouses.
Israeli Interior Minister Gideon Saar told immigration authorities not to differentiate between married gay and straight couples.
SEE: http://www.reddit.com/tb/2dbzs2
Oh bull fucking shit. That is no different than when Libertarians throw pot and gay marriage at you to get you to ignore that they have the same "economic" "fuck you I got mine" economic policy.
YES Israel allows for gay marriage. That still does not change that if you do not share the label "Jew" you are a house guest in their social pecking order. They are basing national law on the Talmud, and Netenyahu said so. That is no different to me when even a liberal Christian says to me "you are equal" but this is a "Christian nation".
You cannot wink in law language at anyone. You can only have equal protection. It is not equal to say "I am special, and so are you, but I am most favored by my government".
"Jewish state" is still state law playing favorites to one label over another. It is not equality to treat a fellow citizen like that, you are treating minorities at that point as pets or house guests or tokens"
The only language the state should have is "freedom of religion" and " equal protection" without name dropping any group name.
