RE: The redneck strike again.
August 15, 2014 at 4:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2014 at 4:42 am by Confused Ape.)
(August 14, 2014 at 8:49 am)Riketto Wrote: 1) In your rush to make a point you forgot something very important.
Sarkar tell us that .......When the movement of the human mind is not in many lateral directions — north, south, east and west — but towards the Supreme Entity, then the mind becomes apexed, pinnacled........but in here it does not tell you how to do all this in order to reach that goal.
Psychology is like a map that show the direction to take but then you need to actually go or get there and here you need spirituality which is the vehicle to take you there.
You're evading the issue here and I'm starting to get very suspicious. You say you've been following the Ananda Marga path for decades and yet you obviously had no idea that Sarkar referred to the spiritual aspect of yoga as Apexed or Pinnacled Psychology.
Quoting something you said in Post #830 -
(August 13, 2014 at 7:51 am)Riketto Wrote: I already explained that psychology is some mental thing which is different from intuitional science which explain the spirit within.
What modern intelligence say related to this point is totally irrelevant to me.
You obviously had no idea that Sarkar wrote about the various aspects of psychology and wanted people to learn about human and non-human animate psychologies.
Now to Yoga And Intuitional Science from the Ananda Marga Garakula website.
Quote:Yoga is a science. From systematic observations and experiments over thousands of years, and from substantial guidance from various elevated masters, yogis have got a deep understanding of the functions of body and mind and the relationship of the two. From yogic practices such as meditation we experience the vast potentialities of the mind and realizes what we, and the cosmos really are.
Yoga is an ancient technique for exploring things which now come under the heading of psychology. The person who wrote that other article I quoted about Intuitional Science obviously has some idea that it comes under the heading of psychology because he said that intuition is a form of cognition. He also used the term psycho-spiritual.
(August 14, 2014 at 8:49 am)Riketto Wrote: 2) About animals suffering in factory farms and laboratories.
Here again you jump to quick conclusion.
It could be that in previous lives these animals were butchers or laboratory experimenters or anyone eating meat so in this life they were born to experiment the same suffering that they force upon other animals.
From P R Sarkar again - Renaissance In All The Strata Of Life
Quote:The biological disparity between human and animal, between human and plant, between animal and plant – that disparity must not be there. Just as a human being wants to survive, a pigeon also wants to survive – similarly a cow also wants to survive, or a tree. Just as my life is dear to me, so the lives of created beings are also equally dear to them. It is the birthright of human beings to live in this world, and it is the birthright of the animal world and plant world also to remain on this earth. To recognize this right, and to get it recognized by the entire human society, the Renaissance movement will have to do something concrete.
Going by that, Sarkar wasn't concerned about what animals might have got up to in past lives. He taught that animals' lives are dear to them and we should be concerned about their welfare in their current lives.
This topic has run for 113 pages. You've had many opportunities to mention Neohumanism and the PCAP organisation but you didn't. Why not?



