What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?

[revivin]

It's too bad we can't have a conversation with atheists because they shut their minds down. The fact that remains if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.