The redneck strike again.

[Little Rik]

Agreed, however one defines the spiritual. I pointed out the spiritual aspect of deep ecology which involves developing an intuitive awareness of the fact that we are not just part of the universe but the universe is within us. I think of it in terms of right brain perception. (Remember the Jill Bolte Taylor video?) If you want to interpret this as God being within everything rather than just the universe being within everything, that's fine with me. The Ananda Marga concept of God is very different to the God of the Bible.

For the Bible God is external which doesn't make any sense to me but we also have to take into account the fact that the Bible has been vandalized by the continue Re-writing and RE-interpreted so many times by so many people with different agenda so it may well be that the original writing may be similar or the same to what i now believe.

The brain is definitely involved because neuroscience has shown that something happens in the brains of people who have religious/spiritual experiences. If you took an hallucinogenic substance your brain would start producing hallucinations.

The brain is involved as it would be involved your car in the process to take you from point A to point B.

Er.. so you are saying that Sarkar was wrong for wanting people to learn the psychology of humans and non-human animates? Why does the educational branch of Ananda Marga include intellectual subjects for students to study?

You don't really need to go to school to learn psychology.
The knowledge is already within.
All you need to do is to open the valve that allow this knowledge to flow out into your consciousness.
Of course you also can do it by going to school but the best way is to do within by practicing spirituality.
Sarkar say that psychology is important but it did not say that by going to school is the only way to get this knowledge.
You once again draw your conclusions without really understand the whole issue.

I can see your point here but this is a discussion forum where people are supposed to explain what they mean. You mentioned service in passing somewhere but didn't explain how it really applied to the Andanda Marga path. When you kept going on about Karmic Law and what Sarkar taught about it, it gave the impression that the Andanda Marga philosophy is too concerned with what people got up to in their past lives.

Not really.
Sarkar say time and time again not to look behind but instead look ahead.

When I did a bit of research it turned out that it's nothing like it came across in your posts. I can understand if you don't want to go into great detail about what you do in your personal life but a link to a few articles about service and how it relates to Ananda Marga spirituality would have avoided this misunderstanding.

AM. has been persecuted since the day that Sarkar gave the Prout system.
The India gov. told him very clearly......teach as much meditation as you wish but forget about Prout.
Many teachers and followers ended up in jail included Sarkar and several got killed just because the Indian corrupted gov. didn't want to give up the corrupted system that Prout would have ended so also the service to humanity has been reduced to a trickle.
India convinced many other gov. that AM is dangerous so everything for AM has always been very difficult.
Other yoga groups have prosper because they never came up with a different political-economic system that would put and end to corruption and all other evils in gov. around the world.

I didn't see those threads. It's certainly a very interesting idea and a great deal of thought has gone into working out the details. The proposed system made me think of Star Trek's Earth society with spiritual practise instead of replicators. Please don't think I'm poking fun of it here. If we ever do develop a global economic and social system which isn't based on consumerism and is fair for all it will probably be something along the lines of PROUT. It's also more realistic than Star Trek because it's unlikely that anyone is going to invent replicators. We'll have to produce food and goods by traditional methods.

One day we may well feed on one tablet a day so gathering food may be a thing of the past.
In the meantime we will have to deal with all evils that prevent real progress.

Well, you can talk about it in this thread because I'm interested in the Ananda Marga philosophy even though I don't believe in a lot of the things that you believe in.

You ask a question and i will answer time permitted especially now that i will be away for a while.

You keep saying I'm rushing to quick conclusions but my conclusions are based on the information you put in your posts and how you present this information. When I misinterpret what you mean, all you have to do is explain where I went wrong and make it clear what you really meant.

I will try harder to explain.

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Thanks once again for your important input.
We couldn't do without you mate.
Anyway i would like to ask you (if you allow of course) one philosophical question that for me inhabitant of the low stratum of this low caste forum is very important to understand but for you that belong to the high caste philosophy forum wouldn't be a problem.
Now i have been thinking about where the search for knowledge and peace of mind may lead to.
It is possible that with the physical death this search will be cut short or may continue somewhere later on?
To me this cut short it is like if i travel (eg) from Brisbane to Sydney and half way through i am prevented from reaching Sydney.
It just doesn't make any sense to me but i certainly be wrong that is why i need your help to understand this important issue.