Why knocking is so important.

[Drich]

Well, then I'd show you a picture of him, autographed by him, or I'd show you film footage of him opening up a new restaurant, or were he still alive, we'd jump on a plane and go shake his hand.

i picked col sanders as an example for two reasons. Fat and faithless avatar is of col with a different head, and because he has been dead long enough that most of us were not alive when he was.

Kinda like Jesus, you know... The Son of God... So everything you can say about the col. I can say about Christ.

Let us know when you can supply that sort of evidence for your little god-thingy.

uh, don't look now but I have like 3 or 4 times. starting with fat and faithless and again and again to everyone else who has brought this up. Do you not read any other posts except your own?

So you don't have to try to do better? What kind of milquetoast redemption is that? When I was a believer, I was a Southern Baptist. We not only had to ask forgiveness each night, we also had to try better to avoid the same sin.

What a shame, that you should take your god's desires so lightly that you presume you'll be forgiven. Better to not commit the sin in the first place, don'tcha think?

pride of life is the sin sport. Pride in God is not. I take great pride as Paul does and I am glad to boast when the wisdom of God beats out the philosophies of man.

It's apparently escaped your notice that I didn't post it, I only quoted a Christian who had. And my comment about his winning the horseshit sweepstakes is explanation enough.

Then why quote [/quote]it?

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Keep reading that muliti post I did last night your answer is in there.

I did read it. The fact that I'm asking this is because the answer was not there... maybe you think it is, but it is not.
At most, you have this:

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Not true. When asked i pointed to spiritual fruit as out lined in gal 5, and spiritual gifts found in 1cor 12. These are all external points that can be tested.

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And this sort of thing only shows that it is a well known phenomenon. The interpretation of that phenomenon is arbitrary. The bible attributes it to some god. Freud will probably attribute it to your penis...
This might be worth the hours:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/

One of my main points is that A/S/K is a methodology that we apply to anything we really want. the first 10 or so pages of this discussion centered around that fact.

Anything we really want?
Indeed, it's a way to self-delusion... BIG-LIE style.


Also, borrowing from all this talk of your past experiences... have you mentioned how your brain is completely fried from all the drug use? Have you considered that most of those experiences (The angel one which knew things practically only you would know) could have been a side-effect of the drugs that were still in your system? Hallucination is common under these circumstances.
Your brain, even damaged, is a very powerful and very complex machine. Before you attribute anything to some outside entity, you must first make sure it's not coming from within! And that seems to be a step you're missing completely!

That said, it is true that, on some occasions, believing in some form of higher power does have beneficial effects on the person. It has made you turn from drug addict to a successful business man, right?
That doesn't mean that any god had anything to do with it, but your own inner belief in said god did play a role. Good for you. I'm glad it helped you. It may (and actually does) help many others in the world.
But it is a phenomenon that cannot apply to those who have no belief in such higher power. These people must find some other way to pick themselves up mentally and straighten their lives.
Some people, even believing in the higher power, will never manage to get back up.
Some people (like most atheists here) have no real need of such psychological crutches. We're already fine with our lives, no belief in any god required, ever.

For some reason, it seems you are incapable of thinking about it like this. This must sound foreign to you, or nonsensical.
Tell me, can you honestly say you've considered the possibility that a lot of the extraordinary phenomena you think happened to you may have been a product of your own mind, your own wishful thinking, your own imagination, your own hallucination, your own projection?

If you can not find your answer directly addressed in the multi is I referenced then we are at an impasse, and can not move forward. Because I know what I wrote, and. I know you say you can't see it. So for me to spend a ton of time trying to make the blind see something is beyond the gifts I have been given. Sorry pro carrots, their is nothing more I can do for you.