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Paranoia in christians
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RE: Paranoia in christians
(August 23, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Mr Greene Wrote:
(August 18, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Michael Wrote: Or looking at it from another angle, those indigenous people who did not adopt the bible, such as American natives, never made the progress that other groups, such as the negro slaves, made by working with, rather than against, the bible. Blacks in America are nearly totally emancipated; their native American brothers and sisters still effectively live under Apartheid in the 21st century; 2nd class citizens in their own land.

European and American history in the 17th to 19th century turned around the newly available English language bible. We can't look at those centuries through secular spectacles; that is such an anachronism.
And yet it's perfectly adapted for looking at Asian history for that period... East India Co. vessels during the early part of that period were uniformly 499 tons as a vessel of 500 tons or more was required to have a minister. When that was relaxed Indiamen grew into 800 ton vessels with China ships making 1200 tons. 'Divine Service' was supposed to be performed by the captain every Sunday, though there would usually be some reason or other found as to why it didn't happen. The East India Co. recognised that the group most likely to interrupt trade and inflame natives was missionaries so these were banned in all territories owned by the Company.

Neither the original argument or the proceeding seem to be strong or weigh in on the overall OP's original intent.

To the first of this quote: If you honestly think "slaves" made out well by adopting Christianity then you are blind to modern circumstance.

To the responder(sic I belive?) of the first quote (aka: Mr. Greene): Are you equating the cleverness of 17-18th century business practices to slavery? And if so that the EITCo made better choices then the slaves? Is this the substance of the argument? Am I alone in my bewilderment that this could even be debated?
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Paranoia in christians - by christianatheist - August 17, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Minimalist - August 17, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Drich - August 18, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Minimalist - August 18, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Polaris - August 23, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Jacob(smooth) - August 23, 2014 at 4:23 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by vorlon13 - August 17, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by christianatheist - August 17, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by vorlon13 - August 17, 2014 at 11:29 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Minimalist - August 17, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by vorlon13 - August 17, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Mycroft - August 18, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Drich - August 18, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Lucanus - August 18, 2014 at 3:20 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by ignoramus - August 18, 2014 at 12:53 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Minimalist - August 18, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by jesus_wept - August 18, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Esquilax - August 18, 2014 at 4:45 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Tonus - August 18, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Jacob(smooth) - August 18, 2014 at 5:09 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by vorlon13 - August 18, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Jacob(smooth) - August 18, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Michael - August 18, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by FatAndFaithless - August 18, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Michael - August 18, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by FatAndFaithless - August 18, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by SteelCurtain - August 18, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Losty - August 18, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by FatAndFaithless - August 18, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Losty - August 18, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by FatAndFaithless - August 18, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by ManMachine - August 18, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Michael - August 18, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by downbeatplumb - August 18, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by ShaMan - August 18, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Minimalist - August 18, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by ShaMan - August 18, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Michael - August 18, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by ShaMan - August 18, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Mr Greene - August 23, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Goosebump - August 26, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Goosebump - August 19, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by christianatheist - August 22, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Tonus - August 23, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Paranoia in christians - by Mr Greene - August 30, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Paranoia in christians - by paulpablo - August 31, 2014 at 12:10 am

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