Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.

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Here's a little tip for dealing with Stat: he will never see it. Because it doesn't literally say, in black and white, the words "women should be second class citizens," he will never see it. Because the bible only meticulously constructs its rules in such a way that men are given disproportionate power in comparison to, and over, women because of their gender, without outright stating that this is the case, he will never ever stop fighting against that fact.

The bible literally is sexist, but because it does not literally say the specific sexist thing that you have stated, this argument will never end, and Stat will continue to pretend that he doesn't see what the words in the book are clearly stating.

Something cannot be literally sexist without literally teaching sexism. For some reason, I find myself constantly bearing the burden of forcing you guys to actually support what you assert to be the case. It gets old, but I guess it’s a good job for me. So far, all that has been supported is the notion that the Bible has different roles for each gender, and has a hierarchy for the church and the household. This however does not support the assertion that the Bible teaches that anyone is a 2nd class citizen or somehow devalued in the eyes of God. For that, I am still waiting for the support.

Uh, if a book has roles for each gender, and one of those roles is to be exclusively submissive and lacks certain rights (like basic bodily autonomy, especially where marriage is concerned) because they are of a specific gender, then that book is advocating for sexist roles. And you can forget about this "eyes of god," crap because that's not at all interesting to an atheist, nor did it feature at all in the initial argument here. People can be second class citizens in the here and now because of the way the bible tells them to live, and if not having access to the same rights as everyone else (like, say, speaking in church, or being able to not marry your rapist, for example) doesn't make you a second class citizen, I'd like to know what exactly you think does.