(August 30, 2014 at 4:35 pm)Dawsonite Wrote:(August 30, 2014 at 1:39 pm)Luckie Wrote: Referring to facts independently verified by unrelated educated authorities in their field, is just referencing reality.
Referring to "facts" "independently" verified by people who you trust. You have to believe that these people actually performed the science that they claim to have done. That's not referencing reality unless you witnessed the science. That's just argument from authority, which is the same thing that the Creationists do.
That's why the arguments on this thread are both sides yelling that the other side is ignorant of the facts. Each side has a different authorities that it references and believes in. You're never going to convince him that your science (just a pseudo-scientific theory in his view) is any better than his revealed truth (just religious bullshit in your view).
THe science is peer-reviewed by multiple people, and similar experiments are performed by different, unassociated groups. Science works pretty well, as evidenced by our lifestyles.