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On naturalism and consciousness

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RE: On naturalism and consciousness

September 3, 2014 at 9:45 am (This post was last modified: September 3, 2014 at 9:46 am by bennyboy.)

(September 3, 2014 at 8:34 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(September 3, 2014 at 2:07 am)bennyboy Wrote: What exactly is the mechanism of seeing a sunset as a beautiful visual panorama, rather than as a collection of frequencies of light?
I'm having trouble understanding what the difference is between the two? Beyond the presence of an aesthetic qualifier in the one and not the other, obvs.

The aesthetic qualifier describes the aesthetic experience, which is not data processing. You may equate them, but I wouldn't-- as you know. This is the essential difference in our philosophical positions, and while it's been fun to talk about, I don't see any non-arbitrary way to resolve the physicalist/dualist/idealistic positions.

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