(September 4, 2014 at 9:44 am)Drich Wrote:(September 4, 2014 at 12:14 am)Jenny A Wrote: So what is the moral lesson of Cain and Abel?The sacrifice of blood was established by God at the fall where He took an animal and killed it to literally cover what the sins of Adam and eve exposed.
Cain and Abel both make sacrifices to god. Abel is a hunter and brings meat. . . yum meat. Cain is a farmer and brings vegetables and grain. . . yum, yum, bread. But god is finds favor only in meat. God apparently demands blood. WHY?
From that moment on the shedding of blood was repersentive of the cost of sin.
Quote:This is like a father looking at the little hand made clay gifts of two sons and throwing bouquets at one and rejecting the other. What kind of good father would do that?'We' are not God's children. Christ is. It is through Christ that we are 'adopted' by God. We are all sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.
God did not instruct his children, God instructed an ebolia patient in a sterialization process that one followed and the other did not. The one that followed instructions was welcomed, the one that did not was kept at arms length.
Quote:Next Cain kills Abel. Not good. I get that. You don't get to kill your brother because daddy loves him best. But why does Cain get a pass with just exile and a you can't kill me card?Did you see the movie noah? I think they got it right in that their was a division between the sons of cain and the sons of seth. Cain got a 'pass' because he was needed to contribute to the events that were to come.
Later in the OT the penalty for murder, let alone fratricide, is death. Why doesn't Cain have to pay that price?
History is not made up of only the sucessful, but rather the most vauable lessons history can teach are of short commings and failures.
Quote: It seems to me that this is a tale about the arbitrariness of fate, not an all loving god. Anyone care to explain it differently?What in the bible makes you believe that God is all loving?
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No Christian explanation? Really?
Christians make up a small percentage of this on line community. As far as i know none of us are paid to watch the board and respond to everything ASAP. Give it a day ot two and if no one responds you can always take me up on my offer to PM or email me the question.
If I point out the stories of Osiris Isis and Horus, and argue for how moral they were in trying guiding the lives of the Egyptians and how Horus was going to save humanity and how Ra and Osiris and Horus sat in judgment of the dead, by proxy that those depictions existed in reality, the gods are real, then you must believe it because someone claimed it.
If I quote a moral story out of the Koran that condemns an immoral act, by proxy of quoting the Koran, it must make Allah a real god.
This is why I hate getting into arguing the stories of any holy book. You fail to see that other people of other religions try to justify the stories in their books as well.
If you will not by the stories of other people trying to justify their books, then you are suffering from confirmation bias.
Even before you get to the first word of any holy book claiming any deity, none of you have established the existence of such an invisible sky hero, much less the necessity of one being a requirement.
