Cain and Abel: Explanation Please. Pretty Pretty Please!

[Jenny A]

It's talking about carnal begetting between human daughters and divine beings. It isn't even ambiguous. Sorry if it doesn't meet your definition of angels but that is what is says.

Wrong again. There is nothing in the Bible that says it was "divine beings" it simply says "sons of God". Angels were never created to be sons of God, They were created to serve God, In fact the word "angel" simply means "messenger".

Man being made in the image of God are his children, and when mankind fell, he had to redeem them because of the love he had for his children. There is no redemption for the fallen angels.

Nope that's the cruddy King James which is a lousy translation. I've quoted the NRVS. But they mean the same thing. Seed is offspring. I agree god is talking to the serpent. But god says Eve's descendants and the serpent's will be enemies because they aren't they same decedents. If your interpretation were right Cain would be the child of both Eve and the Serpent.

The King James version is a lousy translation? The KJV was translated directly from the original Hebrew and Greek, see for yourself.

The original Hebrew
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInter..._Index.htm
Genesis 3:15

It clearly states that the serpent had a seed, and that God would put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman, which manifested itself starting with Cain and Abel on down to Jesus and Judas.

*sigh* Just read the text. Nowhere does it say that Eve slept with the serpent. It does say in all translations that Eve's descendants (or seed if you must) and the serpent's will be at odds. If Eve and the serpent produced Cain (not Biblical) than Eve and the Serpent's seed would be the same. Think!

The NRSV and other versions were also translated from the original Hebrew. But the KJ is hardly the latest or the greatest and was translated with a heavy bias--not to mention it's use of archaic English terms such as seed for descendants and knew instead of sex, etc. Read a Jewish translation or the NRSV--also both from Hebrew.

As to angels read the whole section, then tell me who the Nephilim are. I don't give a damn whether god redeems them.

There are effectively two views regarding the identity of the nephilim, which follow on from alternative views about the identity of the sons of God (Bənê hāʼĕlōhîm):

Offspring of Seth: The Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll) fragment 4Q417 (4QInstruction) contains the earliest known reference to the phrase "children of Seth", stating that God has condemned them for their rebellion. Other early references to the offspring of Seth rebelling from God and mingling with the daughters of Cain, are found in rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Augustine of Hippo, Julius Africanus, and the Letters attributed to St. Clement. It is also the view expressed in the modern canonical Amharic Ethiopian Orthodox Bible.

Offspring of angels: A number of early sources refer to the "sons of heaven" as angels. The earliest such references seem to be in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Greek, and Aramaic Enochic literature, and in certain Ge'ez manuscripts of 1 Enoch (mss A–Q) and Jubilees used by western scholars in modern editions of the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. Some Christian apologists, such as Tertullian and especially Lactantius, shared this opinion. The earliest statement in a secondary commentary explicitly interpreting this to mean that angelic beings mated with humans can be traced to the rabbinical Targum Pseudo-Jonathan and it has since become especially commonplace in modern-day Christian commentaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

Take your pick, but they both go back to antiquity. However, unless you follow the orthodox standard, it's angels not the sons of Seth.

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I'm just showing the differences between the descendants of Adam and the descendants of Cain. The descendants of Adam have always been simple people. The descendants of Cain went on to found great civilizations. The antediluvian time period was a time of great technological achievement.

Cain's descendants are all Adam's descendants because Cain is Adam's son. Cain are Seth are both Adam's sons as was the childless Abel. Adam also had other sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4. Chapter 4 lists Cain's descendants and Chapter 5 lists Seth's. Neither lists the descendants of Adam's other sons and daughters.