(June 10, 2010 at 8:41 am)Pippy Wrote: And that AA is "shitty" and "takes up space secular programs should have", I can only laugh. So you cast scorn on the most positive secret society known to modern man, not because they are a religious institution (they are specifically not) but because they mention a higher power? You also say they explained that the higher power can be anything, including yourself, the door knob or nothingness. Did you miss the point? It is using the mind-tool that is belief to get people to overcome both an addiction and a mental illness, and you shun it? So as an atheist, pragmatic useful belief for the sake of healing is as much bull shit as the rest?I am not a power higher than myself. I am myself. Doorknobs and nothingness are also not higher powers. I am not comfortable with trying to trick myself (the self trickery called faith) into believing something is of greater importance and sentience than it really is. A 'higher power', although much vaguer in definition than a god, is still a supernatural power/entity which one must believe in, and assign helpful attributes to, in order to participate in the AA 12 step method.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
