(September 8, 2014 at 7:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(September 8, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Drich Wrote: No disservice here, it actually gave me an oppertunity to frame my words in their orginal context... Something you generally omit.
Yeah, I'm all for censorship and totalitarianism. That's why I went back and found the "orginal context" which you omitted:
(August 26, 2013 at 10:31 pm)Drich Wrote: I've posted what doctors and researchers call my condition already. Appearently I am an 'elite comtroller.' Now that it is recognized by science , your doctor friends would sell their souls to poke and prod someone who went through my situation before their very eyes. 20 years ago there was no cure for Aids. The only cure was a "false positive" as you people have pointed out so many times already. (Even after I went thought the trouble of trying to educate you all.)
Just In case you missed it:http://atheistforums.org/thread-20455-page-5.html
Post 57 I think. It is the seventh one down.
Bottom line is 'science' doesn't know why this happens (and leaves without a trace otherwise they could potentially come up with a vaccine) but at least now (if they are upto date anyway) will acknowledge the condition. Even if they will not give God his due.
Why do I know God cured me, and the rest of the elite controller group? For the same reason there are no 'atheist' in fox holes (at least while being shot at.) when one is face with the very real threat of death, even if you have doubts, one tends to believe enough to ask for his or her own life whether they will admit it or not.
If you do not think you would be so inclined to ask God for your life, then I ASK that you allow me to pray that God place you in a prolonged situation where you fret for your life every minute of every waking hour, for several days/weeks/months or even years if need be and lets see what happens. (Ill help you get into the situation, but it is on you to work it out with God on whether or not you get back out.)
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(August 26, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Drich Wrote: No Spicoli, you don't get it.
I am saying if you do not think you would ask God to spare your life when face with a terrible disease like aids, I am asking you to allow me to pray that God strike you down with aids, cancer or whatever it takes for you to beg and or grovel for your life. Why? To simply prove the point that there are no atheist when you are staring down the barrel of eternity. That is how I know those 'elite controllers' were healed. Because I know they prayed. Even the ones who thought they were atheist.
I'm not just talking about " a bad day, week, month, or even year." Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself.
gnōthi seauton.
I am giving you an oppertunity to "know thyself."
Not a terrible life. A deadly disease. Or to be put in a life and death situation. There is nothing I am offering to do for you that I have not already prayed for myself. In that, a long time ago I asked God to do whatever it took, even if it meant my life, to help me see and understand Him. I now offer that on your behalf for you. Not as a curse but an opportunity to not only know yourself, but in the journey to get to know God.
For he who cherishes his life above all else will loose it. And he who forsakes his life for Christ will gain eternal life.
Just know I generally get what I pray for.
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(August 27, 2013 at 12:06 pm)Drich Wrote: Yes, because I know the situation. If you want intimate knoweledge of the situation I can pray that you find out.
Again, if you want to know if you would stand strong in your beliefs or eventually fold, there is a way you can find out for sure.. Mind you I don't think you would fold right away, I think you would be one to exhaust all that 'modern medicine' could do for you first. then when their was nothing else to be done, and you were at your end and absolutly knew it, you would at least make the effort to ask for mercy, even if you could not admit it.
A positive about being below the poverity level and contracting something like this, you know that alot of the avaiable treatments are or will be off the table for you, so you reach out to God sooner than you would if you could afford treatment. Others may be able to hold out for longer, but eventually all will fold on some level. Even if they can not openly admit it.
Not wish, Pray for it upon receiving your blessing to do so. And, it does not have to be just AIDS It could be a stroke, or cancer or anything else that it might take to save your soul. God knows how to break your pride just right, in order for you to know without doubt or hesitation that He not only exists, but you can see and hear Him working in your life.
Again I point back to what Christ said on John 12:
23 Jesus said to them, “The time has come for the Son of Man to receive his glory. 24 It is a fact that a grain of wheat must fall to the ground and die before it can grow and produce much more wheat. If it never dies, it will never be more than a single seed. 25 Whoever loves the life they have now will lose it. But whoever is willing to give up their life in this world will keep it. They will have eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me. My servants must be with me everywhere I am. My Father will give honor to anyone who serves me.
I am not praying for your death and subsequent judgement. I will be praying that you be subject to whatever it takes to provide you with eternal life. For some this could mean a winning lottery ticket, but to the hard hearted this usally means to be broken Spiritually which usally follows a physical break in one's health. Again whatever it takes is the key here. Not nessarily your death.
Oh, and I seem to have spotted a certain 'c' word in there. It would seem that your attention to detail is telling of your commitment to the truth of the matter.
Spotting the 'c' word does not mean it was the only thing I prayed for. Again the prayer was for whatever it takes... Aids, cancer, winning lottery ticket.. Again, whatever it takes.
