(September 13, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Harris Wrote: On the other hand, I believe that whole structure of morals in secularism is based on the religious teachings because only it is religion that had given knowledge on human values in a systematic manner and people have enjoyed the wisdom of morals based on religion throughout the human history.No, you have it all quite backwards. Evolutionary Human morality was abducted by religion, packaged for sale, and sold to those who knew not what they already had. It is religions that are freeloading off of secularism, and not the other way around as you have stated. In the real model, religions are, to use your stab, the 'transgressors'.
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Where are the Morals? - by Harris - September 13, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: Where are the Morals? - by Surgenator - September 14, 2014 at 12:21 am
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Surgenator - September 24, 2014 at 2:11 pm
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Harris - October 12, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: Where are the Morals? - by paulpablo - October 12, 2014 at 2:30 am
RE: Where are the Morals? - by Surgenator - October 12, 2014 at 6:03 pm
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Esquilax - October 12, 2014 at 11:19 pm
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by genkaus - October 13, 2014 at 7:36 am
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Exian - September 14, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Where are the Morals? - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 24, 2014 at 8:50 am
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Brakeman - September 14, 2014 at 10:48 am
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by Harris - November 24, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Where are the Morals? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 24, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: Where are the Morals? - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 9:38 am
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RE: Where are the Morals? - by DramaQueen - December 8, 2014 at 12:48 pm
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