(September 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So, you're alright with, as an example, consistently degrading educational standards as ideologically minded theists continue to tamper with the regimen in order to inject their baseless, incorrect beliefs? That's okay with you?
So what if they find it logical? If a serial killer found their actions to be logical, would you be okay with that too? Or is there some fucking upper limit to "acceptable" beliefs in your mind, and you just can't muster the care about religious beliefs?
Flatly incorrect, as my fiancee and numerous other ex-theist atheists will attest. Given that you're just wrong here, we evidently aren't "wasting our time," and you can revise your argument accordingly, by retracting it.
Not that I think you will; for a supposed atheist I don't think you'll be intellectually honest enough. But we'll see.
The fall of education has nothing to do with religion, a stupid population is much easier to control than an intelligent one.
The difference between a murderer and a religious person is that one harms someone and the other doesn't. If a person is a murderer their religion should not be attached to them even if they claim they took such measures for their religion. The mindset of a murderer is different than a non-murderer they are deluded people and regardless of their beliefs they must face the consequences of their actions, atheist or theist.
Your fiancee and other atheists proved it to themselves, and were likely already unsure about their beliefs. The change from theism to atheism is a gradual one from my experience. Faith based queries come before evidence based ones.