(September 15, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Celestine Wrote: The fall of education has nothing to do with religion, a stupid population is much easier to control than an intelligent one.
Uh, yes it fucking does: just currently there's some controversy over textbooks in Texas that contain known falsehoods made to lionize christianity, and you can just go ahead and google the "Wedge document" to see the lengths christian fundies will go to to disrupt science class in order to spread their dogma. Yet again, you're just wrong, which makes me wonder if you bothered to actually do any research yourself.

Quote:The difference between a murderer and a religious person is that one harms someone and the other doesn't.
Without getting too far into details, tell that to my fiancee. She's a member of the forum, you literally can. But then, hearing what she has to say, what a number of other people on this board have to say, might upset your little apple cart, eh?

Once again, I've just got lofty, sweeping generalizations from you, and actual lived evidence of the contrary from other people. Wonder what I should believe?

Quote: If a person is a murderer their religion should not be attached to them even if they claim they took such measures for their religion. The mindset of a murderer is different than a non-murderer they are deluded people and regardless of their beliefs they must face the consequences of their actions, atheist or theist.
Wow, I've never seen a person give a No True Every Possible Religion fallacy before. Good job.

You do know that many religions, christianity and islam specifically, literally order its followers to murder people, right?
Quote:Your fiancee and other atheists proved it to themselves, and were likely already unsure about their beliefs. The change from theism to atheism is a gradual one from my experience. Faith based queries come before evidence based ones.
Thank you for dismissing the personal journeys of people you've never met, out of hand, simply because they disagree with your presuppositions. If you're not a fundamentalist theist, you'd make a great one.

Oh, by the way, where's your condemnation of the religious? It's seems really weird to me, the way you'll bitch out atheists for saying "you're wrong" to theists, but you'll bend over backwards to preserve the theists from being grouped in with the people who say we atheists deserve to be killed, tortured forever, etc. Not a very consistent stance you've got here.
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