(September 15, 2014 at 7:36 pm)genkaus Wrote:Only as ideas drawn from incomplete perceptions.(September 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The hole doesn't exist. Our brain interprets the light of material that DOES exist, draws an imaginary border in space, and treats the two sides of the border as a conceptual "fence." In other words, that border is an IDEA, as is the idea that the lack of stuff on one side of it is a "thing."
The same could be said of everything in existence. We are essentially interpreting light of the material to draw conceptual borders to give distinct identities to what is one big continuum. Does that mean none of it exists?
Look at a calm lake. Does it really have a smooth "surface"? No, how could it? It consists of a bunch of particles vibrating in space. But we take light from some of those particles, map a virtual border, and call it a surface.
The difference is that this simplification works: if a ball hits a "virtual" border called a wall, it bounces, and we don't need to see the gazillion individual moments of all the particles it includes.
God, on the other hand, doesn't see to be a conceptualization which represents any useful fact about our lives.