Is there freewill?

[Drich]

Then we have no responsibility for that sin. Riiiiight?

If you wish to remain separated form God no. Your sin will eternally separate you from God.

There is only obligation if you want to be with God for eternity.

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[quote='Drich' pid='752139' dateline='1410830787']

Indeed, the heinzberg blue ice principle of 2013 and the bible both say we are slaves to sin, therefore no 'free will.'

That would mean that we are not truly responsible for our, but rather the creator that set the universe in motion is as he would be the only being with free will or free agency as our hairy little hiker likes to call it.

...which is why we have been offered atonement, with the only condition being we accept it.