(September 15, 2014 at 9:05 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Only as ideas drawn from incomplete perceptions.
Look at a calm lake. Does it really have a smooth "surface"? No, how could it? It consists of a bunch of particles vibrating in space. But we take light from some of those particles, map a virtual border, and call it a surface.
The difference is that this simplification works: if a ball hits a "virtual" border called a wall, it bounces, and we don't need to see the gazillion individual moments of all the particles it includes.
God, on the other hand, doesn't see to be a conceptualization which represents any useful fact about our lives.
I think you completely missed my point here.
My argument, which was a response to your statement "holes don't exist", had nothing whatsoever to do with god. I used the very same logic that you use here - the idea of virtually superimposed borders - to show that holes exist as much as any other physical object.