Of Holes and A-Holes

[bennyboy]

Only as ideas drawn from incomplete perceptions.

Look at a calm lake. Does it really have a smooth "surface"? No, how could it? It consists of a bunch of particles vibrating in space. But we take light from some of those particles, map a virtual border, and call it a surface.

The difference is that this simplification works: if a ball hits a "virtual" border called a wall, it bounces, and we don't need to see the gazillion individual moments of all the particles it includes.

God, on the other hand, doesn't see to be a conceptualization which represents any useful fact about our lives.

I think you completely missed my point here.

My argument, which was a response to your statement "holes don't exist", had nothing whatsoever to do with god. I used the very same logic that you use here - the idea of virtually superimposed borders - to show that holes exist as much as any other physical object.

I get it. My point is that the way we symbolize stuff (and holes) might be one abstraction away from reality, but that when we behave through that abstraction, real things happen.

The God comment was directed at the OP, which is not only an abstraction, but one which doesn't provide any useful interface to the "truth."