RE: General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
September 16, 2014 at 4:27 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2014 at 4:28 pm by Hellfire1014.)
I could not get the quote thing down, so I'll just bold the stuff.
Nobody will burn in hell because hell doesn't exist. It's a fantasy.
I'd rather not take the chance to find out otherwise.
I don't think (your) version of god exists so I don't think 'it' sees anything.
I think it's good a little bit that you at least think some version of god exist's. Not all doubting. I only hope my version of god exist's, because it's the faith I'm following.
You're right. Nobody would want that.
Agreed.
But I think you're making it all up.
If it is all made up I'm not the one who did make it all up. Maybe in my mind I am.
Using threats of eternal punishment derived entirely from your imagination isn't scary and neither is it threatening. It's just, well, weird.
I'm not using threats. Only quoting what I believe. I suppose I am kind of a weird person though. Not for my religion though.
You sound like a confused individual. MY recommendation would be to ditch the bible crap and go seek some real advice from real people. Entirely your choice, naturally, but there's nothing wrong with porn, masturbating, following some religious woo like Chakras or indeed being gay. You've been told there is a problem with these things by people who espouse a philosophy derived from a supposed celestial entity. It's a nonsense. You've been told not take responsibility for anything; if it's 'bad' is the devil, if it's 'good' then it's all god's work. It's netiehr, it's entirely you and the circumstances around you. Get an A on a test? God did fuck all. You did it. Fail that test? That's entirely on you. buddy.
Why do I sound confused? My problem's with these things? If I look at porn I'm satisfied with that, and do not seek out a relationship. If I look at porn in a relationship then I would not be fair to my wife. Problem with masturbating? Lack of self control? Build's self control. Although I have control with other things in my life this only builds more by abstaining. It might of been torture the first few days, but that subsides. Nothing wrong with the chakra stuff? Well how can people believe in some energy locations on the body, but not believe in god? The chakra stuff? I'd rather not even get into it. I've read horror stories. Kundalini awakening all that. It can mess up your body due to being part of your nervous system. In my religion it would be opening the door to demons, and maybe a seat for them to reside. Lots of problems with being gay. Stretched anus, diseases, anal fissures, hemeroids, what else? You're right most of the bad stuff is from the circumstance around you. The big corporations polluting, your neighbor who does not hold to the word of god so they're naturally a bad person, environment, people are assholes.
Think for yourself and you'll be happier for it.
I am thinking for myself. Just because I follow god does not make me a robot. I too had that fear. Would I not be the same person I was? I am still the same person. Just happier for it. I can feel the change in my life this way. I was much less happier before. You'll probably say "whatever works for you" To my above statement, and you're right. Whatever works for you. I can't change other people. God gave them choice.
There is no such thing as sin, and as such, I am not a 'sinner'. I'm a human being. Well if you don't believe it then I suppose there is no such thing as sin. We shape our own realities, but what happens after that is the big picture.
I/we don't need help for an imaginary being to live a good and fulfilling life. Indeed, compare your life and my life, and it'd probably come out roughly the same regarding happiness and sadness, or rewards and disappointments. That's life. Sorry that you can't see this. Good luck.
You're right. There's lots of rich people who don't believe in god. I do see that. Like your religious view states though. I'm not striving to yield. I could not care if god makes me rich. I'll live this life poor. What is it going to bother me an already poor person? I'm looking to seek, not to yield.
Nobody will burn in hell because hell doesn't exist. It's a fantasy.
I'd rather not take the chance to find out otherwise.
I don't think (your) version of god exists so I don't think 'it' sees anything.
I think it's good a little bit that you at least think some version of god exist's. Not all doubting. I only hope my version of god exist's, because it's the faith I'm following.
You're right. Nobody would want that.
Agreed.
But I think you're making it all up.
If it is all made up I'm not the one who did make it all up. Maybe in my mind I am.
Using threats of eternal punishment derived entirely from your imagination isn't scary and neither is it threatening. It's just, well, weird.
I'm not using threats. Only quoting what I believe. I suppose I am kind of a weird person though. Not for my religion though.
You sound like a confused individual. MY recommendation would be to ditch the bible crap and go seek some real advice from real people. Entirely your choice, naturally, but there's nothing wrong with porn, masturbating, following some religious woo like Chakras or indeed being gay. You've been told there is a problem with these things by people who espouse a philosophy derived from a supposed celestial entity. It's a nonsense. You've been told not take responsibility for anything; if it's 'bad' is the devil, if it's 'good' then it's all god's work. It's netiehr, it's entirely you and the circumstances around you. Get an A on a test? God did fuck all. You did it. Fail that test? That's entirely on you. buddy.
Why do I sound confused? My problem's with these things? If I look at porn I'm satisfied with that, and do not seek out a relationship. If I look at porn in a relationship then I would not be fair to my wife. Problem with masturbating? Lack of self control? Build's self control. Although I have control with other things in my life this only builds more by abstaining. It might of been torture the first few days, but that subsides. Nothing wrong with the chakra stuff? Well how can people believe in some energy locations on the body, but not believe in god? The chakra stuff? I'd rather not even get into it. I've read horror stories. Kundalini awakening all that. It can mess up your body due to being part of your nervous system. In my religion it would be opening the door to demons, and maybe a seat for them to reside. Lots of problems with being gay. Stretched anus, diseases, anal fissures, hemeroids, what else? You're right most of the bad stuff is from the circumstance around you. The big corporations polluting, your neighbor who does not hold to the word of god so they're naturally a bad person, environment, people are assholes.
Think for yourself and you'll be happier for it.
I am thinking for myself. Just because I follow god does not make me a robot. I too had that fear. Would I not be the same person I was? I am still the same person. Just happier for it. I can feel the change in my life this way. I was much less happier before. You'll probably say "whatever works for you" To my above statement, and you're right. Whatever works for you. I can't change other people. God gave them choice.
There is no such thing as sin, and as such, I am not a 'sinner'. I'm a human being. Well if you don't believe it then I suppose there is no such thing as sin. We shape our own realities, but what happens after that is the big picture.
I/we don't need help for an imaginary being to live a good and fulfilling life. Indeed, compare your life and my life, and it'd probably come out roughly the same regarding happiness and sadness, or rewards and disappointments. That's life. Sorry that you can't see this. Good luck.
You're right. There's lots of rich people who don't believe in god. I do see that. Like your religious view states though. I'm not striving to yield. I could not care if god makes me rich. I'll live this life poor. What is it going to bother me an already poor person? I'm looking to seek, not to yield.
