RE: My Thoughts On Militant Atheism
September 19, 2014 at 12:02 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2014 at 12:08 pm by MJ the Skeptical.)
(September 17, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Celestine Wrote: Absolutely right, and yet you somehow hope to attack this illogical logic with evidence and science. Which faith can simply look past.
No, faith alone can't get past the science or evidence stage, how is that looking past it other than just being willfully ignorant. Therefore I was right that faith is illogical. Your conclusion is just utter nonsense, unless you mean look past science and evidence by just ignoring science and evidence, sure. You can also look past the Earth being round and just say it's flat based on faith, and voilà, same faith, same faulty logic. Having faith is like waving the white flag to actually learning about reality.
(September 17, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Celestine Wrote: If you read more of what I was saying, I was saying you need to attack their faith, but to do so in a way as a person might offer a hand to a child that has lost their way.
I do use the gentle approach as well, and it doesn't work with many of the people I talk to, liberal believers to fundies. Maybe for someone sensible, the humble approach will work. However, for you to blanket Militant Atheism as a whole as a bad thing that does harm means you have quite the burden of proof; like some statistics or citations. Hell, even an actual valid argument, instead of this sophistry you've laid out.
(September 17, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Celestine Wrote: "A noble man gives for a gentle approach what he would deny in a rough one." - quote of Omar from the Omar Series. Not sure if he actually said that though.
I think it's more noble to speak out against the harm of religion, loud and proud.
(September 17, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Celestine Wrote: If you read on you would know that I am in full support of questioning religion, I just think it should be done in a much more respectful and mature manner.
Uh, no. I quoted your entire post unlike you who cherry-picked from my reply like a coward. All you did was whine about strong (militant) atheism.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.