In advance, please pardon me if I don't seem entirely coherent. I'm still recovering from a horrible flu that took me down for several days.
He paints an entire movement with a broad brush. "Feminism" covers a large area. He seems to take a few dishonest and/or radical individuals and then uses that to condemn a whole movement. It's why I've unsubscribed to his channel.
I think we really should emphasize that point, that "feminism" means different things to different people. So if you ask me who's right, I would answer, it depends.
If your idea of feminism is that women deserve equal pay for equal work, equal job opportunities and equal treatment in society, I'm definitely a feminist.
If your idea of feminism is that we need to do a much better job of educating people about and punishing sexually predatory behaviors like stalking, harassment, domestic violence and rape, I'm a certainly feminist.
If your idea of feminism is that men shouldn't like sex so much and shouldn't like looking at pictures of young, beautiful, scantily clad women, I'll be polite and say that feminism should review that famous Serenity Prayer (ignore the woo).
So I think Tf has some valid points and if he'd concentrated his videos on the subject to constructive criticism of feminism's critique of gaming and certain individuals as individuals and not representatives of an entire movement, that would be one thing. He paints with way to broad a brush. What finally did it for me is when he tried to argue against the common sense "no means no", ala Rush Limbaugh.
(September 23, 2014 at 10:20 pm)KentuckySkeptic224 Wrote: Who do you think is right in Thunderf00t's ongoing war against feminism, him or the feminists he criticizes?
He paints an entire movement with a broad brush. "Feminism" covers a large area. He seems to take a few dishonest and/or radical individuals and then uses that to condemn a whole movement. It's why I've unsubscribed to his channel.
I think we really should emphasize that point, that "feminism" means different things to different people. So if you ask me who's right, I would answer, it depends.
If your idea of feminism is that women deserve equal pay for equal work, equal job opportunities and equal treatment in society, I'm definitely a feminist.
If your idea of feminism is that we need to do a much better job of educating people about and punishing sexually predatory behaviors like stalking, harassment, domestic violence and rape, I'm a certainly feminist.
If your idea of feminism is that men shouldn't like sex so much and shouldn't like looking at pictures of young, beautiful, scantily clad women, I'll be polite and say that feminism should review that famous Serenity Prayer (ignore the woo).
So I think Tf has some valid points and if he'd concentrated his videos on the subject to constructive criticism of feminism's critique of gaming and certain individuals as individuals and not representatives of an entire movement, that would be one thing. He paints with way to broad a brush. What finally did it for me is when he tried to argue against the common sense "no means no", ala Rush Limbaugh.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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