(September 21, 2014 at 7:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: To get away with that nonsense you'd have to think that humans were capable of perfection.I once bowled five strikes in a row. Five!!!
Human perfection is one of those hazy areas for me, and I'm not sure that it can be defined because the Bible doesn't really define it either. The JW version, best as I can explain it, would be that we would have full control of all of our decisions and actions. This means that imperfect humans are incapable of such a complete level of self-control, with the implication being that sinful behavior constituted a lack of control. The blame for this is placed on Adam and Eve... even though they were perfect, according to JW beliefs.
There was actually a bit more to it, with human perfection also meaning that we could not become sick and that we would not grow old and die. Which is to say that our bodies would perform at some optimal level forever. I'm curious as to how others define human perfection.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
