Thunderf00t vs. Feminism

[Bibliofagus]

So, taking all into account, you think that women have the upper hand in western society?

One more thing though - it is not only about tweaking the laws to give this or that group more rights. It's about reducing the pressure to conform to certain harmful gender stereotypes which affect both men and women negatively.

I'm from the Netherlands. I don't how it is in other countries, but we have got:

- women with the same qualifications get preference when applying for a job
- they are fired less easily
- they get into social housing more easily
- pregnancy leave is three months for women, three days for men (there's good arguments for that, but the difference is disproportionally big)
- the laws enforcing equal pay are skewed toward a wished for ideal situation instead of economic reality*
- health care coverage is cheaper for women
- pensions are cheaper, paid for by guys

And then theres laws that aim to help the non feminists:
- people married to older people can get their state pension at 18. I kid you not. In reality this means a lot of money flows from men to women, as these pensions are paid for by taxes. We are losing this law now but there is a lot of opposition
- a stay at home mom used to get money for... Staying at home

This is just from the top of my head. And it's all law in some way. I'm a feminist myself to be clear, but all these laws (and we have similar laws that help immigrants) create a class that hears the words 'sorry, you are perfect for the job\house, but there is a woman with the same credentials so goodbye' a bit too often. This is not helping feminism I feel.

I also think laws should work towards equality, but an eye should be kept out for the less fortunate in the group that gets defined into having all the privilege. I.e. Less educated white men.