Thunderf00t vs. Feminism

[Bad Wolf]

Can anyone blame any woman for not also championing the rights of men as well as their own. For fuck's sake, women do not have the same equality of life as men.
The problem is in the men's brains and how they think. But women don't want to wait for another hundred years for men to become enlightened on a grand scale, which most of us are nowhere near.
So that's where the laws come in because it won't happen any other way.
It's funny how no one talks about radical male chauvinists because that's the majority of men the world.
And don't anyone ask me to cite anything at all.
Go to any feminist website and have a look.
The most radical of feminist aren't taken very seriously, but Tf is by a lot of people.
Good on him for being correct about everything and in the process damaging a movement that is important and good for both men and women alike.
And I don't fucking care what anyone else thinks, this is what I think.

Please go back to tumblr, also tell your women's studies professor how rude and sexist all men are.

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I don't think repeating the fallacious argument makes it any better. Interest groups specialize, they are allowed to, and the mere fact that they opt to do so rather than spreading themselves thin by addressing every tangentially related issue does not invalidate their central tenets.

In this case, feminism finds its roots in a time and place where there were very real inequalities for women that needed to be addressed, and the movement was established to do so. It is a gender equality movement with a specific focus on those areas where things are unequal for women; having that particular focus does not entail an automatic lack of care for inequality toward men. It's just not germane to this particular group.

So feminists don't have to address all inequality, just that of women, ok. Then who is addressing inequality men face? I'm confused because the constant feminist chant is 'equal rights for all' p.s. lets only focus on women though. I don't think there should be a feminist movement or the opposite for men (whatever that is). There should just be one movement.

Earlier this year, I think? I wish I could find the article, but right now even the correct search terms elude me. The point is, as I've pointed out numerous times- and I'm not the only one to do this in feminist media, so your inability to see it does not reflect the paucity of reference material- that addressing widely held thinking regarding gender roles the way feminism seeks to also has positive knock-on effects for men. Really think about it: what causes custody inequality for men? At it's root, what's the reasoning that leads to this?

Right, so everything is mens fault. The reason that women get more custody is down to men. See this is why I don't like feminism, everything seems to be mans fault.

Could it be that women are supposed to be nurturing, motherly, child-rearing figures, while men are supposed to be distant providers, and can't they do that equally well through alimony? And gee, doesn't that seem like a piece of that "women's work" crap that feminism seeks to erase?

That view really doesn't exist that much in the western world any more.

It's the same with the prison time thing: why would it be that women get lighter sentencing? I would bet it has a lot to do with how our culture traditionally views male and female agency, and also their respective abilities to handle harsh environments like prison. Seems like feminism is trying to correct that sort of imbalance too.

Yep and its mens fault again for the way our culture is.

Do you seriously think that this is a problem in modern society? I mean, do you actually think that this is a widespread issue, rather than this just being a grasping-at-straws kind of thing?

No I don't think it is a problem, the same as I don't think objectification of women is a problem and yet that is all Sarkeesian can seem to talk about.

Which, in itself, isn't even really an issue. Sexual content isn't the same as sexual objectification, even if the idea of men's bodies being displayed for a female gaze might make you uncomfortable. That said, no, I haven't seen Magic Mike; my point here is that "it's a movie about male strippers," is not a point of objectification in isolation.

I was pointing out hypocrisy.

Uh... do you... I mean... Do you know just how many movies there are exactly about female strippers to this one about male strippers? Surely you can see that this is something of a reach, to make this seem like it's any kind of pressing or widespread issue?

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

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Bullshit. Activist X says "such and such is a problem", and all the people who previously didn't care squat about any of these issues suddenly throw a tantrum about what X should rather be worrying about. It's just a dishonest+lazy diversion to avoid having to think about issues and in this case to put these Women in their place because they make you uncomfortable.
When does Greenpeace do to help Ebola victims? What do Doctors without Borders do for the endangered Woodpeckers of China?

Do we really need this kind of hysteria? 'to put these women in their place because they make you uncomfortable' Really?

You've made the very common mistake of assuming i'm a misogynist because I don't agree with how feminism is working at the moment. In truth, I agree 100% with their message.