RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
June 22, 2010 at 7:21 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2010 at 7:25 am by mo3taz3nbar.)
Quote:Sorry mo3taz...the fact remains that all here HAVE read the bible, Qu'ran, torah and a plethora of other traditional texts (Upanishads etc)untill now i didnt see any member in this forums who have any information about the Quran but you always use claims from other people that is not based on the Quran or from websites trying to mislead people by telling them wrong information. am not treating anyone as an ignorant little child but we all can have wrong information or lack of knowledge in some areas and at the end we are all sharing our opinions and increasing our knowledge by reasoning with each other
We have been very curious and have read extensively so as to make firm decisions as to our point of view on the topic. Please stop treating us as though we are ignorant little children....we out grew that crap eons ago.
Quote:The "Abrahamic God" of 'The Torah', 'The Q'ran' and 'The Bible' are considered one in the same. The name may be changed but the deity is the same desert god worshiped by the Semitic peoples of the Middle Eastern countries as opposed to deities worshiped by say: the Scandinavian countries.the name is not is not diffirent in the 3 religions but some non muslims that dont know arabic dont know that arab christians and jews say Allah as a translation for God and you can find it in the arabic scriptures(old and new testment)
if you consider that god is the same in the 3 religions you will be judging islam by what others add to their religion or scriptures (they end up imagining that god is like human being) but in fact the Quran is the preserved word of god(that contains the original of the torah and the bible) thats why there is a lot of different verses in the Quran saying to the jews and the christians to not say about God what they dont know and not to write the book by their hands and claim that this is from god
Quote:The accusations against the Q'ran are as valid as those posited against the Torah and the Bible....i hope that your claims are based on verses from the Quran and you are not accusing islam by what you read in the bible or the torah and if your answer is yes i hope you can get me your evidence from the Quran
What you fail to comprehend is that you have "infidel" = "outsiders" looking at this body of work and criticising it for what it is and what it says. By no means to say that atheists are taking the moral 'High Ground' BUT one cannot be blamed in the 21st Century to look at such works as out dated and irrelevant to today's tribalism. In other words...your 'holy text' is out of date.
Your Q'ran, along with any other 'sacred text' is woefully out of date and only survives as a curiosity and support to the fundamental principle that humans are STILL busy with Tribalism and not ready for anything more...let alone this 'kingdom of heaven' that the books bleat about.
Quote:I would still like to know which language is your mother tongue so I can show you how ridiculous translators are....my mother tongue is arabic and am not using translators
Quote:And no ...you will never have me open a thread on the Q’ran as I do not think it is a book worthy of attention.if you are searching for the truth any book that claims its from god is worthy of attention and not only reading but also deep studying
Quote:Why not.. You should remember that to someone like me, the concept of God is absolutely no different from the concept of Zeus, Odin, Apollo, the tooth fairy, santa claus, Jesus, Moses, etc. etc. and they all have exactly the same chance of existing, i.e. practically zerohttp://www.sultan.org/articles/god.html