(September 27, 2014 at 12:57 am)Hezekiah Wrote:(September 27, 2014 at 12:37 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Of course we're not separate from the Cosmos, but myself and the Cosmos are not synonymous and have very distinct definitions and qualities. I am a "wave in the ocean," so to speak, but the ocean is not in the wave in a sense that suggests contingency, and I am not using ocean analogously for "One Consciousness," whatever that is even supposed to mean.
I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that what psychoslice is suggesting with idea of "One Consciousness" is mankind as a whole, being aware (aka not dead).
I see what you mean though, the ocean is not synonomous with the waves. We as individuals don't make up the collective consciousness of every human being that is alive at this very moment.
As far as us being our bodies, obviously our bodies are contingent on the properties of the unvierse we live in. But when someone dies, their body is left behind, still bound by the laws of gravity and of the universe, but the person is no longer the person who was alive. A dead person is no longer conscious, so where did that consciousness go?
We were never really born and we cannot really die, the mind body organism dies and is born, but we are not the mind body organism. When I say we, I mean we as one, so its not really plural, even to say that we are one isn't correct, for that makes it sound like there is more than one. Like our lungs, they don't really just stop in our bodies, they extend outward, they are one with the tree's where the oxygen comes from, the tree's are one with the sun where they get their sunlight to be able to produce oxygen, and so it goes on and on right back to the so called beginning, or the big bang, yes its all One.
