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Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body?
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RE: Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body?
(September 27, 2014 at 12:44 am)Surgenator Wrote:
(September 26, 2014 at 11:58 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: Lately I've been fascinated with the idea of consciousness. I've been reading a bit on quantum physics, and have come to the idea that the conscious state of mind is completely seperate from the brain.

In other words:

1) I feel as though I am not my body. For instance, if I cut my own hand off, my hand is no longer me, I'm still in the larger portion of my own body (of course I know that's mainly because my brain is still communicating with the rest of my body).
Well, if you cut off part of the brain, you could have a completely different personality.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/prof...nge-part-i
This suggest that the mind and the brain are heavily intertwined.
Quote:2) It takes the brain roughly 80 milliseconds to process new stimulus, including getting that information to the brain via the nervous system. Which introduces the idea that time may not exist if it is all according to how fast the brain can process whats going on.
I'm sorry but time not existing is just rubbish. A friend of mine was in a car accident several years back. He didn't wear his seatbelt and was thrown out of the side window. In that 80 milliseconds, his brain didn't process the collision until he was in midair. If time didn't exist, then how did went from car to air, teleported? Plus, other people who witnessed the accident did see him fly through the air.

FYI, my friend perfectly fine.
Quote:3) Finally, there are all types of optical, tactile and auditory illusions that can play tricks on the brain. We can only perceive our world through our senses, even certain animals can percieve colors invisible to the naked eye. Which, too me, all says that the brain is a magnificent instrument, but is not perfect. And instruments aren't autonomous.
I completely agree with you that the brain is magnificent, but it is not perfect. I disagree with you that the brain is an instrument. This presupposes that something else is using the brain.

I am curious on how you came to this conclusion from quantum physics.

First off, really glad you're friends ok. You had me worried for a minute haha.

Secondly, I agree with your first point and acknowledge that the brain and mind are indeed heavily interwined.

Third, on the topic of "time not existing": I agree, I don't think your friend teleported, time still carried on "normally", if you will, because there were people alive percieving time accurately. But what I'm suggesting is if it takes billions of years for the universe to fall into this exact moment as you read this. Those billions of years happened without anyone to percieve a second of them. In that since, our lifetimes are less than specs on that spectrum of time. And on the spectrum of several billion years we percieve the universe incredibly fast at an amazing rate of information because of our brains. Time, as we know it in seconds, minutes, days, years, etc., is practically non-existent on this spectrum as well. The idea of time not existing because of this effect seems to pop into my head.
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Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body? - by Hezekiah - September 26, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body? - by Hezekiah - September 27, 2014 at 1:14 am

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