RE: Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body?
September 28, 2014 at 10:00 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2014 at 10:05 pm by Surgenator.)
(September 28, 2014 at 8:59 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Yes you can read as much evidence about whatever as long as you want, but you will never know the truth of the matter until you have experienced it for yourself.
Do you not understand what evidence is? Evidence is "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid" (from google). Evidence tells me the "truth of the matter". An experience can only do that when it is considered as evidence, and expericences are not always evidence. For example, people praying to God and hearing responces in their heads is an experience. It is not evidence of a God talking back to them.
So if I want to know truth, I need evidence.
(September 28, 2014 at 3:22 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I don't know what you mean really. Experiences are necessary for any conceptual statement, any citation of evidence, literally everything that may be considered meaningul.
Yes, experiences are a starting point. However, you can gain the knowledge from other peoples experiences and bypass the original work required to get that knowledge. Evidence is the final word has the final word on whether a proposition is true or not. Experiences and knowledge don't necessarily have that ability. This is what I mean that evidence is the ultimate arbitrator of what is true.