RE: Evidence God Exists: Part II
June 23, 2010 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: June 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm by Jaysyn.)
(June 23, 2010 at 11:05 am)rjh4 Wrote: I also think the existence of morals is evidence of God. Again, does the existence of morals necessitate the conclusion that God exists? Certainly not, but I think it is the best explanation. I know many here hold that morals are manmade and only based on what society (the majority) holds as appropriate but I simply do not agree. This has come up a couple of times in my conversations here. To those who hold that what the majority of a society says is right is right, I have presented the following:
In "The God Delusion" Dawkins points out repeatedly & with supporting evidence that there are plenty of biological & tribal reasons for morals & ethics to develop sans the influence of religion. He also makes a great case that said morals & ethics have managed to develop despite the negative moral & ethical influence of the Christian religion.
(June 23, 2010 at 11:05 am)rjh4 Wrote: Start with a society in which a majority of that society determines that it is ok to kill a minority member of the society. Let's even say that a law is passed that says a member of the majority is obligated to kill a member of the minority if they come into contact with one. Is it then ok (right) for a member of the majority to go around killing members of the minority?
Beautiful example of a strawman argument / appeal to pity. The answer, of course, is no. Now give me a reason you have to have religion to tell you that killing another human, another member of your tribal group so to speak, is wrong.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal