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Schadenfreude
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RE: Schadenfreude
(October 7, 2014 at 2:37 am)Exian Wrote: Alex,
That was awesome! Thanks for sharing the video. It wouldn't be easy describing the 'freude' I felt listening to that. Must be my German descent. Smile

Schiller's original poem and also Beethoven's ideas were all about seeing humanity as a whole, not about being German or not. Quoth Schiller:

Joy, beautiful sparkle of god,
Daughter of Elysium,
We enter, fire-drunk,
Heavenly one, your shrine.
Your magics bind again
What custom has strictly parted.
All men(*) become brothers
Where your tender wing lingers.


That's the antithesis of tribalism, and it's from 1808 no less, a time when the nationalists were the progressive movement. And of course, Beethoven moved to Vienna pretty quickly because that's where it was at back then. Smile

(*) In the original it's alle Menschen, i.e. all of humankind
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 12:54 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by DramaQueen - October 7, 2014 at 1:05 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:24 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Exian - October 7, 2014 at 1:10 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Losty - October 7, 2014 at 5:28 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by Surgenator - October 7, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Surgenator - October 7, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by DramaQueen - October 7, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by DramaQueen - October 7, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by c172 - October 7, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:36 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by c172 - October 7, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by genkaus - October 7, 2014 at 1:43 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by genkaus - October 7, 2014 at 1:55 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Alex K - October 7, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 2:22 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Alex K - October 7, 2014 at 2:26 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 2:29 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by genkaus - October 7, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by ShaMan - October 7, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Alex K - October 7, 2014 at 2:06 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Exian - October 7, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Alex K - October 7, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Alex K - October 7, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by paulpablo - October 7, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Schadenfreude - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by Thumpalumpacus - October 7, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by pgrimes15 - October 7, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jenny A - October 7, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by genkaus - October 7, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by Jackalope - October 7, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by ShaMan - October 7, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: Schadenfreude - by Tonus - October 7, 2014 at 7:29 pm



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