(June 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Oh, just to add, I have more than just that watch to bring to the table.It's almost convincing to me, except there is the likelihood that the selected personality traits of doing things beneficial to society and other individuals, occurs in both people who end up breeding as well as those who don't (gay or straight). The ability to love and care for someone else's genetic offspring probably is a trait we are all capable of having.
I have come up with one argument that atheists will find wholly unconvincing but it is an argument that fundies aren't likely to hijack anytime soon:
Also, at least in the case of humans, many gays, both female and male do breed, so if it does turn out that gayness is genetically based, it won't be selected out of existence. But even if there are less gays passing on their genes to the next generation than straights, that doesn't mean they themselves didn't receive the unrelated personality traits (genetic somewhat?) of being beneficial to society/other people, which in turn society selects for by protecting and rewarding those who have the traits.
Interesting video topics at your youtube page by the way. There are a bunch I want to go back and watch. I subbed to you recently, but I can't remember whether I found your channel here at this forum, or from someone else's channel on youtube. I'm adding subs intravenously these days!

I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...