Hey mo3, Hey mo3! Nyuck nyuck!

[mo3taz3nbar]

So your just going to discount any evidence that doesn't agree with your views, I'm not surprised.

Neither am I. I didn't expect him to actually have a rebuttal to any of that. It is not what he has chosen to believe is true, so he will not even entertain the thought. His is the argument from 'but that's not what I want to be true!'

He is a lost cause.

you are getting to a place where neither of us will be able to give evidence for the authenticity of the source of his information all i could do is to link you a history book that proves that muhammed(pbuh) was the best man who came to earth and i will not be able to give you any proves that what the writer is saying is the truth and yours are not as you will say that the one who wrote the history is lying so why bother
all i was able to do is that i gave you a link of people who are non muslim writers who said great things about him as its more credible to hear a good thing from non muslim about islam(you have to be an expert in history to become able to diffirintate between the truth and the lies)
i believe in muhammed(pbuh) because of the Quran not the other way around

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Mo3....I've tried "not" to post on your topics/comments, but sense I love a good debate I'll reply to you on this one...

Half of my family are Muslims from Lebanon....Sidon to be more exact.

The other half are "Christian"...."Louisiana" to be exact on the Bible belt.

I've had a rare opportunity to truly grow up with both sides of the mix. I love them all, but after decades of hearing, reading, learning and seeing......It all boils down to influence, comforting, & personal preference due to all the above.

Mo3, even within your own sect they disagree with the Qur'an's meanings etc. Hence the reason for "Sects".....

Do you not see the simple fact that within the Islamic faith; one sect is wrong and the other right and vice/verse?

Same goes with the Christian one as well..Hence the reason for 34,000+ denominations coming from one book....

yes i know that there is a lot of different sects(they are minorities) but you think that they have different Quran or interpretation? no different sects means that they believe certain things in history or follow someone they believe he was so religious than most of people and start to glorify him more than a normal man which is not acceptable in islam even for muhammed (pbuh)
the different sects is not considered a non muslim he is a muslim doing a wrong thing. in some countries they fight because of political issues but the main beliefs of different sects are exactly the same