Consciousness: Is it seperate from the human body?

[Brakeman]

The notion isn't beyond the pale, left to itself. It's only the assumption made afterwards. ..

All in all its a difficult idea to entertain because you're using the very instrument in question to understand things beyond that instrument!
It is quite the vicious cycle once you think about. Literally. Once you think about it, in some way, you're making an error.

I wouldn't listen to Rhythm! He probably thinks one could describe accurately the state they live in without having been to all other states. I bet he couldn't see that if you measured a pair of calipers with a pair of calipers that it would instantly give erroneous data as well.

Learning about the brain with the brain ... like that would work!