(October 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Looks the same to me. Perfection doesn't require greater physical composition. Exactly. All the composition that the universe needed to function should have been there from point zero. That supports the continual evolution of everything. There is no evidence of any new substance not intrinsic to this universe.
See? I told you you missed the point. I'm saying that form and structure of the physical composition is relevant in making something better. And that was not present from point zero. Thus, your argument that "effect cannot be greater than cause" falls flat.
(October 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You're disputing it without stating your case. Get back to me when you think of something. "Oh no it isn't" might be ok at a pantomime.
Until you give some factual or logical support for your assertions, they are no better than a pantomime, which is why saying "Oh no it isn't" is sufficient to dispute them.