The Miracle Of Iron !!

[mo3taz3nbar]

So the validity of your argument about scientific statements in the quran is not subject here? Than what is your subject here?

the subject here is the verse about the iron and its not my subject some guy wrote this and left the thread so i was just clarifying things

So we agree on the fact there are no brilliant scientific observations in the quran, the writers were just too ignorant to describe modern scientific facts, and that only in hindsight some statements were selected for reinterpretation to refer to scientific facts.

i didnt say this. am saying that in the time of muhammed(pbuh) they didnt have the tools to know these things and this is a proof that this is not his word but god word as it was impossible to know about a lot of things about universe in their time

Don't refer to sites that try to address science at the level of toddlers and conclusively fail at that. If you think there's no difference between the concept in physics of strings and weaven ropes as in your shoe, than don't build an argument on it and don't refer to sites with that kind of mindless crap on it. If you wanna talk science, talk science. I can handle it, can you?

if the information i told from the links is wrong correct me and give me the right link

Your response doesn't match at all to the argument. Can you detect that yourself or do you need help?

lol sorry about that i was answering you about the space having no up and down

mo3taz3nbar Wrote:

You are restating what I feared you meant: The quran is mallaeable to doctrines of man and not the word of god.
i think i have a little misunderstanding of the word doctorines. what i meant is when someone say that jesus is God it must be written in the scriptures or his claim will be meaningless and it will be clear that he is just saying things from his head.so when a religion face the problem that what they claim is not written in their scriptures they start adding it by themselves
I totally agree and to me it is a quite convincing argument that scriptures cannot go as evidence on their own. How does that help the point you are trying to make about the quran?

you are not matching quotes with the right post also i think